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Title: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on November 26, 2022, 09:38:36 PM
I was wondering which Windows workstation 3.5 can be installed on? and does it need an authorization for the protracker to connect or is it plug and play?
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: fetron on November 27, 2022, 01:46:05 AM

Please read "readme.txt"
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: admin on November 27, 2022, 07:58:40 AM
It is a 16bit program so it can work with Windows XP.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: jvthorsley on November 27, 2022, 03:32:03 PM
And you can download it from the Forum.
Just ask Curtis, Tech Support.
Use the password 354XPSP2.
And extract to C:\.
What version of the ProTrack are you wanting to use it with?
Just ask Curtis.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on December 31, 2022, 11:38:08 AM
Thanks everyone, downloaded and installed
Question. When open and try to correct Hardware (protractor USB) there are three choices for a USB tracker what are those which one are you supposed to choose?
378h
278h
3BCh
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: jvthorsley on December 31, 2022, 04:04:52 PM
Hi
I think you will find that that the USB Auto-Detect will find which port you are connected to.
There are a few other settings in Preferences you can also play with.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on December 31, 2022, 11:17:53 PM
I have problem in XP windows Professional 32 bit / service pack 3, Protracker driver hptusb.sys never ends installing. installation window for driver install "found new Hardware wizard" is up and running for the last 1/2 hours. I have stopped it in previous installation attempts and the device manager shows a clear Protracker icon as if it is ready to be used. but WS 3.5.4 does not recognize it. and also in Device manager, the protracker property folder says device is not installed.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: jvthorsley on January 01, 2023, 03:46:56 AM
Hi A11234
Did you install Workstation 3.5 like this:-
"
The online download 3.5.4 file is zipped and needs to be extracted to the c:\huntron path. Then install by running  "setup".

If you have an original 3.5.4 installation CD then install from the CD".(Copy from Curtis Huntron Tech 2017)?

If your ProTrack is a KJ3 version.
I see Curtis did write this "The KJ3 units will not activate with commercial software. There are some firmware differences as well because of the range settings the US Navy Gold Disk program used. It is more legacy support than anything".

Has Curtis said that Workstation 3.5 should be compatible with your ProTrack KJ3 version if that is what you have there.

I have installed Workstation 3.5 for a ProTrack KJ1 & KJ2 using Windows XP Pro /32-bit / SP3 with no problems, apart that is from trying to install other than my first comment here.


Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: fetron on January 02, 2023, 01:26:10 AM
Happy New Year!

Burn workstation 3.5.4 to cd.
Uninstall previous installations.
Then try to install the program from the CD.

KJ3 version runs well with Workstation 3.5.4.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: admin on January 03, 2023, 10:31:19 AM
The addresses in the ProTrack Hardware Settings were for parallel ProTracks. USB versions should be recognized automatically if the driver is installed.

Try fetron's advice above.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 03, 2023, 10:42:09 AM
Thank you guys, I will try that tonight when I'm back in the shop and will keep you updated
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 03, 2023, 09:57:55 PM
I put the program on cd/DVD, removed the already installed WS from computer. Could not remove ws name from the program list.
Removed hptusb.sys from driver folder.
Eventhough everything is removed  computer does not say found new hardware when protracker is plugged in.

then tried installing protracker driver from cd. It got stock in "hardware update wizard" window. See picture.
I tried this install before and after installing the WS 3.5.4, same result, looping on last step of the wizard window.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: admin on January 04, 2023, 06:48:49 AM
Make sure WinXP is updated to at least Service Pack 2. Install the driver from the CD (or the extracted download file) called "hptusb.inf".
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 04, 2023, 08:47:11 AM
Good morning, I have windows xp Professional Service Pack 3. tried installing drivers with CD, CD:Huntron, C: & C:/Huntron.

I can only choose up to the "Hontron" folder, on CD or C: while going through driver installation.
 
Then, I tried just extracted files and no "Huntron" folder under C: and burnt on CD. I could only choose up to the location of the extracted files on drives C: or D: while going through window driver install.

But when no "Huntron" folder Was on CD and only extracted files, window xp started installation of WS as soon as CD was placed in the the DVD player. Since WS was already installed I would stop the install...

Also I thought, the driver file is HPTUSB.SYS.
Every time I have to stop the computer from endless looping in the Hardware Updare Wizard window while trying to install the driver, I go in "C:... Driver" folder and remove the hptusb.sys. I don't see a hptusb.inf.

Could there be something wrong with my xp. I think I might have another xp on a laptop somewhere. I'll try that later.
And will try the WS install from the CD as well.
 
 
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: admin on January 04, 2023, 09:25:34 AM
When you extract the contents of the download file "huntronworkstation3.5.4.zip" you will see a hptusb.inf file in the extracted location (see image).
Also, when you install (run the Setup.exe), use the default folder which is C:\winhunt

(https://huntron.com/ad/huntron354-cap.png)
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 04, 2023, 01:13:34 PM
Okay I will try this when I get in the shop tonight.
Thank you
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 04, 2023, 08:04:54 PM
I have those files in my folder as well. but it looks like there is a bit of difference in the data size. for example, my setup.exe is 8,374 KB, the one in your pictured above is 8.6 KB. My file is about 200-300 KB short on data compared to what I see in the picture. A few other files are different as well. I will send a picture of mine.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 04, 2023, 08:13:53 PM
These are extracted files on my sys.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 05, 2023, 02:46:13 AM
I tried all of that and it did not work.
The laptop which I thought has XP on it actually has Windows 7.
"Winhunt" folder under C drive is the folder that setup.exe creats for huntron installation automatically. Should I make an additional folder before installing named winhunt under C drive and extract the files into?

Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: fetron on January 05, 2023, 04:56:20 AM
It only works with the following Operating Systems:
Win 95, Win NT, Win XP.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: admin on January 05, 2023, 06:31:25 AM
The screen shot I posted was from my Mac which probably calculates file size a bit differently. When installing 3.5.4, if you use the defaults for the install path it will create a "winhunt" folder.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 05, 2023, 08:50:36 AM
I've installed WS 3.5.4 in Window XP Professional Service pack 3, WS  seems to be working fine. But the protractor I, USB is not getting installed. The driver installation for the protracker goes into a loop which never ends in the windows hardware update wizard.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: admin on January 05, 2023, 11:24:51 AM
I am not sure if I can be of any more help. I have no way to test Workstation 3.5.4 and a "ProTrack" (not protracker or protractor  ;D  ). No XP computers here.

Can anyone show AI1234 how the ProTrack should show in the XP Device Manager?
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 05, 2023, 12:33:55 PM
 Ok thank you for trying. Hopefully someone can help.
Got it ProTack. 😊😊
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: jvthorsley on January 05, 2023, 04:39:06 PM
Hi
In reply to request by Curtis I still have an old PC with Windows XP S/P 3, and Workstation 3.5.4.3 + Workstation 4.2.
Both work with my Huntron ProTrack + Scanner on Windows XP S/P 3.
I have attached photos of the Device Manager for Workstation 3.5.4.3.
Hope this helps.

Although my old PC is called ORAC it does not self repair like the computer on the 80's Si Fi TV series!!
Already had to replace the Electrolytic Capacitors round the CPU as they started blowing their tops.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: jvthorsley on January 05, 2023, 04:44:35 PM
Hi
I have also attached photo showing the files in the directory C:\Huntron.
Any more information required?
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 05, 2023, 10:22:41 PM
Got it thank you very much. I will try to install tomorrow or this weekend again. If it does not work, I'm going to try finding another computer with XP. I'm starting to think maybe there is some issues with this computer.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 06, 2023, 09:01:06 PM
Tried the install again in windows xp, did not work. BUT then I tried it on a windows 10. Driver was installed at ease. I was able to continue, ProTack and WS 3.5.4 connected. in the hardware setting it did not connect but asked to go through ProTrack diagnostics and perform a Loop Calc. The first ProTrack I was trying could not pass the Loop Calc. Had a couple of failed voltage or phase reading. this unit working but I really got it for parts in case... I might get around  to repairing it one day.
Then I brought my main ProTraK which I had recently repaired, this unit passed all the tests in Loop Calc. and just like that, it connected by itself. OHhhh my goodness, just like they said, so easy, Oh God, I can Sleep now.
I did a little fulling around with WS 3.5.4 in windows 10 it seems to be working but I think I need to learn more of the software to be sure. The Help menu deffenitly does not open in windows 10, SO used the XP comp to read the help.   
I can do manual Probing and see the signature on the manual test window and can change ranges...etc. But have not been able to save anything. since the component I was probing had no continuity between pins, WS pointed this out and asked to make sure of and check my connections, so that sounds smart and hopeful.
I setup a component...did a manual probing. but I don't think I know How to save or view it. I am debating to purchase the tutorial CD and board.
next I will connect the scanner and see how that will go.
thank you everyone. I appreciate all your guidance very very much.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: jvthorsley on January 07, 2023, 03:36:19 AM
Hi
Workstation 3.5 is as  Curtis (Huntron Tech support Engineer) says "It is a 16bit program so it can work with Windows XP".
You might have loaded Workstation 3.5 onto Windows 10, but its not going to work.
It will only work with Windows 98, Windows 2000, & Windows XP.
Also once Workstation 3.5 is installed on the correct operating system you will have to run Loop Calc before the program will work with your ProTrack + Scanner.
perhaps Curtis when he is back online on Monday will confirm this!

No real need to purchase the tutorial, just probe a few different Capacitors, MOSFETS, Triacs, and resistor capacitor combinations and you'll soon learn what can be done with a Tracker. Try using the Pulse generator to switch on some Triacs / SCR's. Or use the pulse generator to switch a load like a 12 V. bulb on an IGBT.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 09, 2023, 06:48:13 AM
Okay thank you I will. I've used the Huntton 2700 for a while.
But the ProTrack is a different Beast then adding the scanner, watch out.

How do you save any signature in workstation 3.5? Under control and signatures, message comes up saying signature does not exist..
Under control then manual I can use the protracker but only in live mode. I can only save one signature on the screen for comparison. But this won't save anything on the computer to view for later. I wish I had not misplaced the Huntrons manual CD I purchased.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: admin on January 09, 2023, 07:00:06 AM
If you are using Workstation 3.5.4 in Windows 10 it will not work.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 09, 2023, 08:49:52 AM
I'm trying to find another computer with XP on it. I have a couple of old ones but they need to repair so that's in the works to be done hopefully this month
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: jvthorsley on January 09, 2023, 09:59:11 AM
Get yourself a copy of Windows XP S/P 3 / 32 bit.
I recently got a copy of Windows 10 for £5.17 or $6.30 for a download version to CD or direct to PC.
You might even find that Windows XP runs faster on your PC after doing.
But get rid of the old copy if you think its suspect.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 09, 2023, 02:47:52 PM
Are you able to save signitures in 3.5 when installed on windows xp sp3?
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: admin on January 09, 2023, 02:59:26 PM
Yes, the software is used to create a test procedure and store signatures. There is a tutorial in the Workstation Help.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: admin on January 09, 2023, 03:41:47 PM
I said earlier that Workstation 3.5.4 was "16-bit". I am not sure where I pulled that bit of misinformation from but it actually is a 32-bit program. I haven't used or tested these old versions in years so sometimes my old brain has some slight recall issues.
Title: Re: workstation 3.5 and window
Post by: Al1234 on January 09, 2023, 10:52:44 PM
It's all good here, I know what you meant. Thank you so much for being there and answering our call and helping out solve problems. It really means a lot.